Toronto’s ‘poor doors’ in condo developments

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It’s a trend that’s been seen in New York and has sparked criticism and now it’s also being seen in Toronto. Condo developments that include affordable housing are being built with two separate entrances, one for the affordable housing and one for those paying for the more expensive units. The so called ‘poor doors’ have been heavily criticised in New York, not least because critics say that developers use the affordable housing provision to persuade planners to green-light the project and receive subsidies but the finished development is not within the spirit of the plans.  There is pressure on New York to ban the practice and it’s unlikely to prove too popular here either.

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  • Gus Bennett on 2014-09-21 6:42:14 PM


    In Canada 40 years, coming to Canada from Jamaica. I sincerely believe Toronto to be the most open and tolerant city in the world, and I am proud to call it home.

    A poor door This is not Toronto
    Toronto The Good does NOT do this.
    We are Canadians that have a history of tolerance (Underground Railroad, Loyalist. We only have to look into the buildings along King St E to buildings and address used by abolitionist such as Mary Shadd and Fredrick Douglass.

    Our city has hosted the likes of Nelson Mandela. Now do we regress to the level of other countries and allow the Poor Door?
    I SAY NO!
    LET’S NOT LET THAT KIND of THINKING TAKE HOLD!
    NOT IN TORONTO!
    NOT IN CANADA!

    Would we tolerate a COLOURED PEOPLE DOOR?
    THIS SIMILAR if not EXACTLY THE SAME!

    There are all sorts of arguments to try and make this palatable, which amounts to an insult on the common intelligence and decency to all the citizens of this great city and great country.

    Maybe affordable housing in the city is not possible. As Toronto moves to become a world class city. The prices are almost there. Can we afford prime real estate to be used of public housing? Maybe not if we are going to allow developers to
    run amuck in our city. Let’s sell some land to builders let them schools, amenities and infrastructure if the cost are pass on to the wealthy purchasers that is fine.

    There is plenty of land in this city, it’s not advisable to force profit driven organization to determine public policy.
    Let’s not give them the choice OUTLAW the POOR DOOR just like we would outlaw COLOURED PEOPLE DOOR
    Developers will insists this produces affordable housing in the area.
    We have a successful history at the New Regent Park buildings and the Esplanade of mixing affordable homes without degrading people. This is not an excuse.
    Sort of offering someone food after you have eaten, send them the rest to eat in an inferior room in the mansion.

    City Officials will say, it’s a way of incorporating
    funds to provide a solution. Frankly, if our civic leader do not have solutions, if they lack a Canadiana vision for our city, if they are willing to degrade our citizens and import US ideas, if they cannot stand up for this city, then they should resign and let more competent citizens take their place.

    Some low income people may not have an issue with this. However we should allow everyone to live and maintain their dignity.
    People in some circumstances cannot afford dignity, so let’s not put then in in a position where they will be forced to accept a Poor Door.
    I grew up in Ontario housing in Scarborough. But with great family and ambition my family was able to buy our home. Affordable housing for most people should be a stop gap solution not a final destination. Yes, retires, single parents and others may be in affordable housing for a long time. Fine but they should be able to maintain their dignity.
    Let’s not allow this type of Apartheid.



    Not in Toronto the Good.
    God bless our city.

  • Gus Bennett on 2014-09-21 6:42:16 PM


    In Canada 40 years, coming to Canada from Jamaica. I sincerely believe Toronto to be the most open and tolerant city in the world, and I am proud to call it home.

    A poor door This is not Toronto
    Toronto The Good does NOT do this.
    We are Canadians that have a history of tolerance (Underground Railroad, Loyalist. We only have to look into the buildings along King St E to buildings and address used by abolitionist such as Mary Shadd and Fredrick Douglass.

    Our city has hosted the likes of Nelson Mandela. Now do we regress to the level of other countries and allow the Poor Door?
    I SAY NO!
    LET’S NOT LET THAT KIND of THINKING TAKE HOLD!
    NOT IN TORONTO!
    NOT IN CANADA!

    Would we tolerate a COLOURED PEOPLE DOOR?
    THIS SIMILAR if not EXACTLY THE SAME!

    There are all sorts of arguments to try and make this palatable, which amounts to an insult on the common intelligence and decency to all the citizens of this great city and great country.

    Maybe affordable housing in the city is not possible. As Toronto moves to become a world class city. The prices are almost there. Can we afford prime real estate to be used of public housing? Maybe not if we are going to allow developers to
    run amuck in our city. Let’s sell some land to builders let them schools, amenities and infrastructure if the cost are pass on to the wealthy purchasers that is fine.

    There is plenty of land in this city, it’s not advisable to force profit driven organization to determine public policy.
    Let’s not give them the choice OUTLAW the POOR DOOR just like we would outlaw COLOURED PEOPLE DOOR
    Developers will insists this produces affordable housing in the area.
    We have a successful history at the New Regent Park buildings and the Esplanade of mixing affordable homes without degrading people. This is not an excuse.
    Sort of offering someone food after you have eaten, send them the rest to eat in an inferior room in the mansion.

    City Officials will say, it’s a way of incorporating
    funds to provide a solution. Frankly, if our civic leader do not have solutions, if they lack a Canadiana vision for our city, if they are willing to degrade our citizens and import US ideas, if they cannot stand up for this city, then they should resign and let more competent citizens take their place.

    Some low income people may not have an issue with this. However we should allow everyone to live and maintain their dignity.
    People in some circumstances cannot afford dignity, so let’s not put then in in a position where they will be forced to accept a Poor Door.
    I grew up in Ontario housing in Scarborough. But with great family and ambition my family was able to buy our home. Affordable housing for most people should be a stop gap solution not a final destination. Yes, retires, single parents and others may be in affordable housing for a long time. Fine but they should be able to maintain their dignity.
    Let’s not allow this type of Apartheid.



    Not in Toronto the Good.
    God bless our city.

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